Sounds like a reminder that it's "every man for himself," when you are a member of this organization. There will be no emergency assistance coming down from the tower.
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by Fading Begins ini am sure that this has already been discussed, so maybe someone could direct me to the correct link.
i just haven't been able to access this site as often as i would like.
at the meeting tonight (i wasn't there but was told about it), the brothers were told to pack up a "survival kit" with enough provisions to last for six months - water, medications etc.
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HELP: the cross or the stake
by never a jw injust asking for help from the vast number of very knowledgeable people here.
when was the "stake" doctrine adopted by jw's and what publication contains that information.
thank you..
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Searcher, great points. The "cross vs. stake" argument didn't get far in our house either. My husband made similar points to what you said.
The JW's get hung up on these details, and overlook the big picture. They miss the whole message of redemption and salvation.
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I just don't get it.
by quellycatface in.
i know....i'm new to this set up.
apologies for being a dumbo.
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Oh!
I thought the shunning was a form of punishment, used in order to encourage the wandering sheep to repent and return to the fold.
True friendship can only be found inside the walls of the society. The love this organization has for its members, is amazing!
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Comment from my dad, "They are smarter than me."
by Faithful Witness inmy jw (converts of about 5 years) came over on thursday and ate a turkey dinner with us.
we didn't call it thanksgiving, but that was obviously what it was.
they were proud to give me my own copy of the new revised and improved nwt bible.
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These are awesome replies! Thanks.
Black Sheep: I might plant some seeds for critical thinking at Christmas??
I get only rare occasions with my dad.Any suggestions for thought-provoking questions are welcome.
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Comment from my dad, "They are smarter than me."
by Faithful Witness inmy jw (converts of about 5 years) came over on thursday and ate a turkey dinner with us.
we didn't call it thanksgiving, but that was obviously what it was.
they were proud to give me my own copy of the new revised and improved nwt bible.
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He also made the comment that there are more features to be added to the app. That will be interesting.
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Comment from my dad, "They are smarter than me."
by Faithful Witness inmy jw (converts of about 5 years) came over on thursday and ate a turkey dinner with us.
we didn't call it thanksgiving, but that was obviously what it was.
they were proud to give me my own copy of the new revised and improved nwt bible.
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My JW (converts of about 5 years) came over on Thursday and ate a turkey dinner with us. We didn't call it Thanksgiving, but that was obviously what it was. They were proud to give me my own copy of the new revised and improved NWT Bible. I admired the quality with them, and thanked them for bringing it to me. I guess they now have a whole stack of them at the KH, due to backorders that were filled for people who already got their copy at the annual meeting.
My dad was telling me about the JW Library app for the iPad. I admitted that I already had it, and had explored it a little bit. We talked about how cool it was. He made the same statement 3 times during this short conversation: "I don't know, they are smarter than me," when he was marveling at the features on this new app.
This statement is unusual for the father who raised me. I am a lot like him, and I like to think for myself. I know he's getting older, in his late 60's now, but I find this curious. I did not comment on it, but was supportive of all he said. I will have JW-related conversations and seed planting at other times then his agreeing to come to my house for a pagan celebration. I was glad he came over, and didn't want him to leave with any feeling but approval and love from me.
Going along with some other comments people have made recently, I wanted to add this observation. He has clearly submitted to the organization and the authority of the governing body. Since he repeated this particular statement 3 times, I don't think it was his own. He must have picked that line up from someone at the KH.
They are not smarter than you!!
My mom has actually agreed to stop by sometime during our CHRISTMAS celebration weekend at my house, and my dad might come also! This is huge, so I am not going to even say a word about anything JW until the new year. (After that, game is back on!)
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A very nice JW tried to give me a pamphlet today at my door
by Faithful Witness ini'm so happy that they came while i was home, and i was prepared for the knock on my door.
i greeted a very nice jw lady on my doorstep.
she wanted to give me a pamphlet about whether the dead will live again.
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I do think she may have had an "Oh shoot" moment, when she got to Matthew 6:4.
When I had mentioned that Jesus told us to practice our righteousness in secret, she said, "He never said that!"
She was a very nice lady, and I would love the chance to talk to her again. I find it interesting that they keep sending different JW's to my door. Why is it never the same person?
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A very nice JW tried to give me a pamphlet today at my door
by Faithful Witness ini'm so happy that they came while i was home, and i was prepared for the knock on my door.
i greeted a very nice jw lady on my doorstep.
she wanted to give me a pamphlet about whether the dead will live again.
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Smiddy: She was very resistant to the idea that the time card was in any way a report to men for recognition. I let her wander a lot in her conversation with me, but refused to take any of the bait she threw out there for me with the WT lies. Instead, I marvelled at the way she jumped from topic to topic, when she didn't want to answer my question.
I kept asking her why the hours were reported. I asked her what would happen if she didn't turn in a time card? When she denied that it mattered, I asked her if she was a pioneer. "Is it true that you have to report a certain number of hours in order to maintain the different titles and levels in the organization?" I confessed that I'd never filled out a time card, since I never had the privilege of doing field service work.
She said, "My daughter is a pioneer, and she agrees to do a certain number of hours each month. She works part time, so she can do 70 hours of service work each month." She didn't say it with a prideful tone of voice, but I did react when I heard that figure. Honestly, I never realized. I guess I never asked.
She then told me how it didn't matter if you were a pioneer or an elder. "We are all the same. No one is treated any differently within the congregation." I nodded and agreed.
She made several disturbing statements that my husband jumped at, while I was repeating the story... trying to bait me into changing the subject.I know the time card is a minute detail, that they are trained to not even think twice about. They just do it. She was totally thrown by my bringing it up, not because I knew about it, but because it had nothing to do with anything Jesus said. I'm hoping that next time she fills out that card and turns it in, a thought might pass through her mind about it. They are keeping track of your work. The men are keeping track of your efforts.
(There was no mention of it being an estimation of her spiritual health, as has been suggested in my other thread, asking this same question. Thank you, SFPW, for preparing me for this visit by the JW at my door. I appreciate and value your insight.)
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A very nice JW tried to give me a pamphlet today at my door
by Faithful Witness ini'm so happy that they came while i was home, and i was prepared for the knock on my door.
i greeted a very nice jw lady on my doorstep.
she wanted to give me a pamphlet about whether the dead will live again.
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A very nice JW tried to give me a pamphlet today at my door
by Faithful Witness ini'm so happy that they came while i was home, and i was prepared for the knock on my door.
i greeted a very nice jw lady on my doorstep.
she wanted to give me a pamphlet about whether the dead will live again.
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If she comes back, I will make refreshments. 2 days before Thanksgiving, and a house in chaos, was really an inconvenient time for me.
It is almost spooky, the timing that they have with me. I was just this morning, telling my husband I need to stop thinking so much about the JW's. I have so many other things to worry about in my OWN life... they keep getting sent to my door at the most inopportune times!
I definitely made some mistakes, but I did much better than I did with the last guy. I don't mind her thinking it was a success for her. It was a pleasure to meet her, and I hope she will come back. I have a lot of questions. 8-)